[Cake] [Bloat] some mikrotik comments

Fri Oct 15 11:17:11 EDT 2021

I listened to you on Modem, Nick is pretty involved with us on TBW, but
Modem is his own thing. While there's some overlap I'd suspect that we have
a diverse enough listener base that you should get some new ears. But I
totally get not wanting to waste your time talking to the same audience.

I'll see about what I will need to do to setup a proper test suite to get
usable data.

On Thu, Oct 14, 2021, 3:33 PM Dave Taht <dave.taht at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 3:18 PM Thomas Croghan <tcroghan at lostcreek.tech>
> wrote:
> >
> > Ya, I've got access to most of their CCR line, and I have a smattering
> of their RB line. TBH, the only places I think you will see interesting
> data is with the 1072 (72 tile core 1 GHz) and the 2004 (4 core 1.7 GHz
> ARM64).
>
> The former would be exciting. We have wrestled with the htb qdisc lock
> a lot, I'm glad the ebpf version is scaling well in libreqos, but
> I'd still suspect that number of cores to be really hard to utilize.
>
> > I'm also with The Brother's WISP, so if Dave wants to do a cast I can
> set that up with the other guys. I'm pretty sure there was some
> conversation about trying to get Dave on a while back.
>
> I was on already with dan! How quickly we forget!!
>
> https://www.modem.show/post/s01e07/
>
> is that not the brothers wisp? an affiliated show?
>
> I AM trying to do some form of outreach, monthly, but was hoping that
> the apple folk would step up to talk about the rpm idea.
>
> After baring my soul regarding the l4s debate on reality 2.0 I'd kind
> of had it for a while - I'd run out of good jokes - I said to myself
> after that - ... "if (when?) starlink implements cake on the dishy,
> perhaps joe rogan will *finally* call, and I can divert the convo from
> bufferbloat to near earth asteroid exploration over a doobie."
>
> so far, he hasn't called.
>
> BTW!!! it's a good quarter for asteroid exploration - see the psyche
> mission, and this: https://www.nasa.gov/planetarydefense/dart
>
> So, anyway, if anyone *else* here likes the idea of going on a podcast
> on the bloat front please let me know, I did let a couple
> opportunities slip by last month. Or if I must go on, I could use some
> new jokes and analogies....
>
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 14, 2021, 11:27 AM Jordan Szuch via Cake <
> cake at lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Awesome, thanks! I went and subscribed to that topic so I'll get
> notifications when people reply. Hope to jump in once I'm less busy with my
> day to day work.
> >>
> >> Regarding more powerful hardware, I think someone replied to the
> mailing list earlier offering to run some tests. Sounded like he might have
> some bigger hardware to test out. Thomas Croghan back on Monday morning it
> looks like.
> >>
> >> Might also be worth reaching out to these guys to do some testing or
> evangelizing at least: https://thebrotherswisp.com/ They run a podcast
> with a rotating cast of network operators, WISPS, etc. And they seem pretty
> clued into the MIkrotik world specifically. I recall that you've jumped
> onto a podcast or two recently so that's why I bring it up.
> >>
> >> Anyway, I listen from time to time and one of the hosts brought up
> being very interested in using fq_codel and CAKE in a Multi Dwelling Unit
> scenario (mentioned here after a 3-4 minutes
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFKG_cXGPrE&t=4444s). Actually, I think
> they even name check you in an earlier episode (found it:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1QitymNZTo&t=4285s), although one host
> was a bit skeptical of everything.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Dave Taht <dave.taht at gmail.com>
> >> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 1:09 PM
> >> To: Jordan Szuch <jordan at inacomptc.com>
> >> Cc: Cake List <cake at lists.bufferbloat.net>; bloat <
> bloat at lists.bufferbloat.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [Bloat] some mikrotik comments
> >>
> >> Thx. I put the discussion and plots over here:
> >>
> >> https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=179307
> >>
> >> I might - should I feel like expounding more later this week - go back
> to the flent.gz files to discuss other features. Ironically the chromebook
> I have in front of me doesn't want to let me download a file via email and
> make it visible in the real filesystem. I'm vm'd off from myself for some
> reason.
> >>
> >> But my big goal, honestly, was to get some mikrotik users to test their
> bigger iron...
> >>
> >> On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 9:05 AM Jordan Szuch via Bloat <
> bloat at lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi Dave,
> >> >
> >> > Interesting that you should send this out; I recently picked up a
> unit (this one specifically: https://mikrotik.com/product/hap_ac2) to do
> some testing of the v7 firmware. Nothing super high end but enough to do a
> little testing. I have CAKE set to do some shaping and so far seems
> functional. At least the bufferbloat speed tests from DSLReports and
> WaveForm indicate some shaping is happening. If you'd like any information
> about the unit, the v7 firmware, or particular tests run then I'd be happy
> to help out.
> >> >
> >> > Jordan
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Bloat <bloat-bounces at lists.bufferbloat.net> On Behalf Of Dave
> >> > Taht
> >> > Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 11:39 AM
> >> > To: Cake List <cake at lists.bufferbloat.net>; bloat
> >> > <bloat at lists.bufferbloat.net>
> >> > Subject: [Bloat] some mikrotik comments
> >> >
> >> > the v7 beta gained doc and more os support for fq_codel and cake
> >> > recently
> >> >
> >> > https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?p=885000#p885000
> >> >
> >> > anyone out there actively testing mikrotik?
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Fixing Starlink's Latencies:
> >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9gLo6Xrwgw
> >> >
> >> > Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
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