[Cerowrt-devel] [Ow-tech] Open secure wireless

Mitar mmitar at gmail.com
Thu Jun 18 17:35:16 EDT 2015


Hi!

So, what can we do to change this?


Mitar

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Christopher Byrd <chris at riosec.com> wrote:
>
> Yep, I'm here. Thanks for reading my research! If there are any questions
> about the technique, I'd be glad to answer them. While technically Open
> Secure Wireless works, the user experience is not acceptable. The biggest
> hurdle remains industry standards and client support.
>
> Christopher
>
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Ranganathan Krishnan <rk at selwastor.com>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> We have Chris Byrd from Riosec on the ow-tech mailing list. Check
>> out this thread from him last year :
>>
>> https://lists.eff.org/pipermail/ow-tech/2014-May/000031.html
>>
>> I have this feature enabled on the Openwireless APs. What is needed
>> is a campaign with the Client manufactureres (Google, Cyanogen,
>> Apple etc) to get them to fix the bugs in their implementation that
>> cause their clients to abort if no client certificate is installed -- even
>> though the connection would succeed since the server will never
>> request the client cert.
>>
>> If there is interest in sustaining such a campaign with the Client
>> manufacturers, I will be happy to contribute.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ranga
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 17, 2015, at 8:47 AM, Dave Taht <dave.taht at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > In the alphabet soup of wireless standards, I had not heard of 802.11u
>> > before now.
>> >
>> > http://www.riosec.com/articles/open-secure-wireless-20
>> >
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: Mitar <mmitar at gmail.com>
>> > Date: Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 4:29 AM
>> > Subject: [Ow-tech] Open secure wireless
>> > To: ow-tech at lists.eff.org
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi!
>> >
>> > Reading this old post:
>> >
>> > https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/04/open-wireless-movement
>> >
>> > I wanted to point some research done on this some time ago:
>> >
>> > http://www.riosec.com/articles/Open-Secure-Wireless
>> >
>> > http://www.riosec.com/articles/Open-Secure-Wireless/Open-Secure-Wireless.pdf
>> >
>> > And also some progress:
>> >
>> > http://www.riosec.com/articles/open-secure-wireless-20
>> >
>> > If you are not doing that already, I think EFF should get on board of
>> > supporting those changes to the standard.
>> >
>> > (BTW, originally, as presented in 1.0 paper, WiFi standard does allow
>> > open and secure connections, just no operating system really
>> > implements it because they all first prompt for the password, before
>> > trying to connect to the encrypted WiFi network to figure out the
>> > password is really required.)
>> >
>> >
>> > Mitar
>> >
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>> >
>> > --
>> > Dave Täht
>> > What will it take to vastly improve wifi for everyone?
>> > https://plus.google.com/u/0/explore/makewififast
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