[Ecn-sane] travel funds for ietf for the next SCE talk?

[Ted Lemon]

This is the precise distinction I was making. I didn’t pay. Someone paid, but not me. It’s amazing that you were willing to make it work out of pocket, but that’s just not scalable. 

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> On May 12, 2019, at 6:27 PM, Joel Jaeggli <joelja at bogus.com> wrote:
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>> On May 10, 2019, at 07:00, Ted Lemon <mellon at fugue.com> wrote:
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>>> On May 10, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Joe Touch <touch at strayalpha.com> wrote:
>>> The only  people who get a fully free ride that I know of are the IEEE Comsoc Board. 
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>> Hm.  I’ve never paid to attend IETF.  Granted, this is not because IETF comped me, but because I was fortunate enough to have an employer who could afford to send me at no cost to me.
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>> This model unfortunately doesn’t work for open source developers who are not on the payroll of a company with deep pockets.
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> That's an odd definition of having never paid.  At the point of registration, you either provided a credit card or requested an invoice. The nominal cost of your involvement in the IETF borne on the part of you or your employer(s) is no doubt considerable, especially during your term on the IESG when the time commitment was also considerable..  
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> For most  of the 4 years I spent on the IESG I paid the costs of attending out of my own pocket. I did that, because it was what i signed up for, because it needed to get done and because I believed there was value in the work being done in the operations and management area.  Back as an individual contributor I come when I have something to do and some way to pay for it otherwise I wouldn't be there.
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> joel
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