[LibreQoS] [Bloat] [Starlink] On fiber as critical infrastructure w/Comcast chat

[Livingood, Jason]

Happy to help (you can ping me off-list). The main products are DOCSIS and PON these days and it kind of depends where you are, whether it is a new build, etc. As others said, it gets super complicated in MDUs and the infrastructure in place and the building agreements vary quite a bit.

Jason

From: Bloat <bloat-bounces at lists.bufferbloat.net> on behalf of Nathan Owens via Bloat <bloat at lists.bufferbloat.net>
Reply-To: Nathan Owens <nathan at nathan.io>
Date: Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 09:07
To: Robert McMahon <rjmcmahon at rjmcmahon.com>
Cc: Rpm <rpm at lists.bufferbloat.net>, dan <dandenson at gmail.com>, Frantisek Borsik <frantisek.borsik at gmail.com>, Bruce Perens <bruce at perens.com>, libreqos <libreqos at lists.bufferbloat.net>, Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink at lists.bufferbloat.net>, bloat <bloat at lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] On fiber as critical infrastructure w/Comcast chat

Comcast's 6Gbps service is a niche product with probably <1000 customers. It requires knowledge and persistence from the customer to actually get it installed, a process that can take many months (It's basically MetroE). It requires you to be within 1760ft of available fiber, with some limit on install cost if trenching is required. In some cases, you may be able to trench yourself, or cover some of the costs (usually thousands to tens of thousands).

On Sat, Mar 25, 2023 at 5:04 PM Robert McMahon via Bloat <bloat at lists.bufferbloat.net<mailto:bloat at lists.bufferbloat.net>> wrote:
The primary cost is the optics. That's why they're p in sfp and pay go
Bob
On Mar 25, 2023, at 4:35 PM, David Lang <david at lang.hm<mailto:david at lang.hm>> wrote:

On Sat, 25 Mar 2023, Robert McMahon via Bloat wrote:

 The fiber has basically infinite capacity.

in theory, but once you start aggregating it and having to pay for equipment
that can handle the rates, your 'infinite capaicty' starts to run out really
fast.

David Lang

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