[Make-wifi-fast] Make-wifi-fast Digest, Vol 60, Issue 5

Jon Pike jonpike54 at gmail.com
Mon Apr 6 02:46:25 EDT 2020


Hmmm... that should be a good performer,  has the hardware crytpo support,
and is a goodly amount more powerful than the N3xxx that I have in a little
Zotac box (CI327) router.

Others on the OpenWRT forum (dlakeland) have tested that one, or even a
lower scale J1900, as being able to shape a full 1Gb link, IIRC.  Several
threads going into that.

BTW,  the CI327 seems to now be extinct, but the delayed CI329 (which has a
N4100 or 4105) is out now,  $160-190, but w/o ram... so maybe this new
board is a better deal at that price.  Dont think it has Intel eth
chipset,  think its the "better" Realtec the earlier model had.  Another
option...



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>    4. Re: [Bloat] [Cake] New board that looks interesting (Dave Taht)
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Dave Taht <dave.taht at gmail.com>
> To: "David P. Reed" <dpreed at deepplum.com>
> Cc: Aaron Wood <woody77 at gmail.com>, Cake List <cake at lists.bufferbloat.net>,
> Make-Wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast at lists.bufferbloat.net>, bloat <
> bloat at lists.bufferbloat.net>
> Bcc:
> Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 09:10:06 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Bloat] [Cake] New board that looks
> interesting
> Historically I've found the "Celeron" chips rather weak, but it's just
> a brand. I haven't the foggiest idea how well this variant will
> perform.
>
> The intel ethernet chips are best of breed in linux, however. It's
> been my hope that the 211 variant with the timed networking support
> would show up in the field (sch_etx) so we could fiddle with that,
> (the apu2s aren't using that version) but I cannot for the life of me
> remember the right keywords to look it up at the moment. this feature
> lets you program when a packet emerges from the driver and is sort of
> a whole new ballgame when it comes to scheduling - there hasn't been
> an aqm designed for it, and you can do fq by playing tricks with the
> sent timestamp.
>
> All the other features look rather nice on this board.
>
> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 7:47 AM David P. Reed <dpreed at deepplum.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks! I ordered one just now. In my experience, this company does
> rather neat stuff. Their XMOS based microphone array (ReSpeaker) is really
> useful. What's the state of play in Linux/OpenWRT for Intel 9560
> capabilities regarding AQM?
> >
> > On Saturday, April 4, 2020 12:12am, "Aaron Wood" <woody77 at gmail.com>
> said:
> >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Cake mailing list
> > > Cake at lists.bufferbloat.net
> > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake
> > > https://www.seeedstudio.com/ODYSSEY-X86J4105800-p-4445.html
> > >
> > > quad-core Celeron J4105 1.5-2.5 GHz x64
> > > 8GB Ram
> > > 2x i211t intel ethernet controllers
> > > intel 9560 802.11ac (wave2) wifi/bluetooth chipset
> > > intel built-in graphics
> > > onboard ARM Cortex-M0 and RPi & Arduino headers
> > > m.2 and PCIe adapters
> > > <$200
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Bloat mailing list
> > Bloat at lists.bufferbloat.net
> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
>
>
>
> --
> Make Music, Not War
>
> Dave Täht
> CTO, TekLibre, LLC
> http://www.teklibre.com
> Tel: 1-831-435-0729
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Aaron Wood <woody77 at gmail.com>
> To: Dave Taht <dave.taht at gmail.com>
> Cc: Cake List <cake at lists.bufferbloat.net>, "David P. Reed" <
> dpreed at deepplum.com>, Make-Wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast at lists.bufferbloat.net>,
> bloat <bloat at lists.bufferbloat.net>
> Bcc:
> Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 09:27:12 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Bloat] [Cake] New board that looks
> interesting
> The comparison of chipset performance link (to OpemWRT forums) that went
> out had this chip, the J4105 as the fastest.  Able to do a gigabit with
> cake (nearly able to do it in both directions).
>
> I think this has replaced the apu2 as the board I’m going with as my edge
> router.
>
> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 9:10 AM Dave Taht <dave.taht at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Historically I've found the "Celeron" chips rather weak, but it's just
>> a brand. I haven't the foggiest idea how well this variant will
>> perform.
>>
>> The intel ethernet chips are best of breed in linux, however. It's
>> been my hope that the 211 variant with the timed networking support
>> would show up in the field (sch_etx) so we could fiddle with that,
>> (the apu2s aren't using that version) but I cannot for the life of me
>> remember the right keywords to look it up at the moment. this feature
>> lets you program when a packet emerges from the driver and is sort of
>> a whole new ballgame when it comes to scheduling - there hasn't been
>> an aqm designed for it, and you can do fq by playing tricks with the
>> sent timestamp.
>>
>> All the other features look rather nice on this board.
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 7:47 AM David P. Reed <dpreed at deepplum.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Thanks! I ordered one just now. In my experience, this company does
>> rather neat stuff. Their XMOS based microphone array (ReSpeaker) is really
>> useful. What's the state of play in Linux/OpenWRT for Intel 9560
>> capabilities regarding AQM?
>> >
>> > On Saturday, April 4, 2020 12:12am, "Aaron Wood" <woody77 at gmail.com>
>> said:
>> >
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > Cake mailing list
>> > > Cake at lists.bufferbloat.net
>> > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake
>> > > https://www.seeedstudio.com/ODYSSEY-X86J4105800-p-4445.html
>> > >
>> > > quad-core Celeron J4105 1.5-2.5 GHz x64
>> > > 8GB Ram
>> > > 2x i211t intel ethernet controllers
>> > > intel 9560 802.11ac (wave2) wifi/bluetooth chipset
>> > > intel built-in graphics
>> > > onboard ARM Cortex-M0 and RPi & Arduino headers
>> > > m.2 and PCIe adapters
>> > > <$200
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Bloat mailing list
>> > Bloat at lists.bufferbloat.net
>> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Make Music, Not War
>>
>> Dave Täht
>> CTO, TekLibre, LLC
>> http://www.teklibre.com
>> Tel: 1-831-435-0729
>>
> --
> - Sent from my iPhone.
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Dave Taht <dave.taht at gmail.com>
> To: Make-Wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast at lists.bufferbloat.net>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 09:35:03 -0700
> Subject: [Make-wifi-fast] I lost my temper with the wsj this morning
> https://www.wsj.com/articles/faster-internet-is-on-the-way-11585869911
>
> https://twitter.com/mtaht/status/1246471612628516865
>
> --
> Make Music, Not War
>
> Dave Täht
> CTO, TekLibre, LLC
> http://www.teklibre.com
> Tel: 1-831-435-0729
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Dave Taht <dave.taht at gmail.com>
> To: Aaron Wood <woody77 at gmail.com>
> Cc: Cake List <cake at lists.bufferbloat.net>, "David P. Reed" <
> dpreed at deepplum.com>, Make-Wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast at lists.bufferbloat.net>,
> bloat <bloat at lists.bufferbloat.net>
> Bcc:
> Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 10:36:01 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Bloat] [Cake] New board that looks
> interesting
> I think I'll wait for y'all to try it and report back. I trust my
> apu2s and I actually kind of like they lack a graphics chip and need
> to be configured via serial port.
>
> In other news I've started testing ubuntu 20.4, which among other
> things, has wireguard in it. I've been really frustrated with the
> state of distributions lately, trying to get any complex thing done
> has required snaps and docker containers and I really prefer running
> stuff natively when possible. Tools that I still rely on like mrtg and
> smokeping are undermaintained, trying to get zoneminder to co-exist
> and co-install with anything else (notably jitsi thus far) has been a
> real PITA.
>
> I am pleased at the increasing size of the ipv6 deployment, my phone
> got it last month....
>
> I think I've found a babel bug with default routes...
>
> and I fired up a kernel build to go hack on the ax200 chips.
>
> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 9:27 AM Aaron Wood <woody77 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > The comparison of chipset performance link (to OpemWRT forums) that went
> out had this chip, the J4105 as the fastest.  Able to do a gigabit with
> cake (nearly able to do it in both directions).
> >
> > I think this has replaced the apu2 as the board I’m going with as my
> edge router.
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 9:10 AM Dave Taht <dave.taht at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Historically I've found the "Celeron" chips rather weak, but it's just
> >> a brand. I haven't the foggiest idea how well this variant will
> >> perform.
> >>
> >> The intel ethernet chips are best of breed in linux, however. It's
> >> been my hope that the 211 variant with the timed networking support
> >> would show up in the field (sch_etx) so we could fiddle with that,
> >> (the apu2s aren't using that version) but I cannot for the life of me
> >> remember the right keywords to look it up at the moment. this feature
> >> lets you program when a packet emerges from the driver and is sort of
> >> a whole new ballgame when it comes to scheduling - there hasn't been
> >> an aqm designed for it, and you can do fq by playing tricks with the
> >> sent timestamp.
> >>
> >> All the other features look rather nice on this board.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 7:47 AM David P. Reed <dpreed at deepplum.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Thanks! I ordered one just now. In my experience, this company does
> rather neat stuff. Their XMOS based microphone array (ReSpeaker) is really
> useful. What's the state of play in Linux/OpenWRT for Intel 9560
> capabilities regarding AQM?
> >> >
> >> > On Saturday, April 4, 2020 12:12am, "Aaron Wood" <woody77 at gmail.com>
> said:
> >> >
> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > Cake mailing list
> >> > > Cake at lists.bufferbloat.net
> >> > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake
> >> > > https://www.seeedstudio.com/ODYSSEY-X86J4105800-p-4445.html
> >> > >
> >> > > quad-core Celeron J4105 1.5-2.5 GHz x64
> >> > > 8GB Ram
> >> > > 2x i211t intel ethernet controllers
> >> > > intel 9560 802.11ac (wave2) wifi/bluetooth chipset
> >> > > intel built-in graphics
> >> > > onboard ARM Cortex-M0 and RPi & Arduino headers
> >> > > m.2 and PCIe adapters
> >> > > <$200
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Bloat mailing list
> >> > Bloat at lists.bufferbloat.net
> >> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Make Music, Not War
> >>
> >> Dave Täht
> >> CTO, TekLibre, LLC
> >> http://www.teklibre.com
> >> Tel: 1-831-435-0729
> >
> > --
> > - Sent from my iPhone.
>
>
>
> --
> Make Music, Not War
>
> Dave Täht
> CTO, TekLibre, LLC
> http://www.teklibre.com
> Tel: 1-831-435-0729
>
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