[NNagain] Brendan Carr: "Six years ago, Americans lived through one of the greatest hoaxes in regulatory history...

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On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 3:22 PM Dave Taht via Nnagain <
nnagain at lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 11:21 AM the keyboard of geoff goodfellow via
> Nnagain <nnagain at lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> >
> > ➔➔https://twitter.com/BrendanCarrFCC/status/1716558844384379163
>
> Leaving aside the rhetoric, I believe the majority of these claims on
> this part of his post:
>
> https://twitter.com/BrendanCarrFCC/status/1716884139226329512
>
> to be true. Any one question this?
>
> I do wish that he showed upload speeds, and latency under load, and,
> acknowledged some mistakes, at least, and did not claim perfect
> success. Also individual states had stepped up to institute their own
> rules, and I would love to see a comparison of those stats vs those
> that didn´t.
>
> The COVID thing I am most fiercely proud of, as an engineer, is we
> took an internet only capable of postage stamp 5 frame per sec[1]
> videoconferencing to something that the world, as a whole, relied on
> to keep civilization running only 7 years later, in the face of
> terrible odds, lights out environments, scarce equipment supplies, and
> illness. ISPs big and small helped too - Their people climbed towers,
> produced better code, rerouted networks, and stayed up late fighting
> off DDOSes. People at home shared their wifi and knowledge of how to
> make fiddly things on the net work well, over the internet  -
>
> Nobody handed out medals for keeping the internet running, I do not
> remember a single statement of praise for what we did over that
> terrible time. No one ever looks up after a productive day after a
> zillion productive clicks and says (for one example) "Thank you Paul
> Vixie and Mokapetris for inventing DNS and Evan Hunt(bind)  and Simon
> Kelly(dnsmasq) for shipping dns servers for free that only get it
> wrong once in a while, and then recover so fast you don´t notice" -
> there are just endless complaints from those for whom it is not
> working *right now* the way they expect.
>
> There are no nobel prizes for networking.  But the scientists,
> engineers, sysadmins and SREs kept improving things, and are keeping
> civilization running. It is kind of a cause for me - I get very irked
> at both sides whining when if only they could walk a mile in a
> neteng´s shoes. I get respect from my neighbors at least, sometimes
> asked to fix a laptop or set up a router... and I still share my wifi.
>
> If there was just some way to separate out the ire about other aspects
> of how the internet is going south (which I certainly share), and
> somehow put respect for those in the trenches that work on keeping the
> Net running, back in the public conversation, I would really love to
> hear it.
>
> [1] Really great talk on networking by Van Jacobson in 2012, both
> useful for its content, and the kind of quality we could only achieve
> then: https://archive.org/details/video1_20191129
>
> > --
> > Geoff.Goodfellow at iconia.com
> > living as The Truth is True
> >
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