[Starlink] geo-engineering...

[Loganaden Velvindron]

On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 at 10:56, Hayden Simon <h at uber.nz> wrote:

> Woosh, the issues there must be significant. 1.2million people! I expect
> you’d import all your fuel? How is electricity generated there?
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Yes, our fuel is imported.

Coal burning is how we produce energy. There is a plan to become net zero.
However, it's clear that it needs to happen sooner. I think that nuclear
power is an option.



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> *From:* Loganaden Velvindron <loganaden at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2023 6:53 PM
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> On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 at 10:45, Hayden Simon <h at uber.nz> wrote:
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> Snap. Does the context of your developing country match that of my example
> (Egypt?) I can’t see them doing anything at scale; they simply don’t have
> the money/political motivation.
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> Yes. We have similar issues in Mauritius. We are also a small country. We
> have too many ICE cars on the road. However, we saw an increase in
> hybrid/EV purchases in 2022 and the number is growing for 2023. I'm not a
> Nissan fan, but the Nissan Leaf is the most affordable one.
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> *From:* Loganaden Velvindron <loganaden at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2023 6:33 PM
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> On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 at 09:16, Hayden Simon <h at uber.nz> wrote:
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> How do you apply a statement like that to the middle east? 20million
> people in Cairo / Giza; 110million (I think?) total in Egypt. Fuel is
> NZ$0.50c/litre; cars freaking everywhere running all day long. Average
> salaries are very low. How would they afford the transition away from
> fossil fuels? You could extend that same question to any developing economy.
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> We're never going to be able to make a useful dent in emissions until we
> address the developing world.
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> I come from a developing country. Our government is giving tax breaks on
> hybrid and EVs on import. I agree that there is more we can do ...
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Starlink <starlink-bounces at lists.bufferbloat.net> On Behalf Of
> Loganaden Velvindron via Starlink
> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2023 5:06 PM
> To: George C. G. Barbosa <gcgbarbosa at gmail.com>
> Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink at lists.bufferbloat.net>
> Subject: Re: [Starlink] geo-engineering...
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> Switching to nuclear energy could be an option. We can all learn from
> France's experience. I agree that We should stop pumping CO2 in the
> atmosphere. ICE cars should be phased out more aggressively.
> Governments should give tax breaks to companies with work from home
> policies ?
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> On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 at 08:37, George C. G. Barbosa <gcgbarbosa at gmail.com>
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> > It could be a solution to the heat problem, but then we would keep
> pumping CO2 into the atmosphere, which would increase ocean acidification,
> which would disrupt the ecosystem even more. Plankton in the ocean accounts
> for roughly 1/2 of the oxygen we breathe. My point is: this is a hard
> problem. The solution won't be simple.
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> > On Wed, Jul 19, 2023, 9:27 PM Loganaden Velvindron via Starlink <
> starlink at lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
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> >> This should get deployed asap.
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> >> On Thu, Jul 20, 2023, 02:55 Dave Taht via Starlink <
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> >>> MIT has a pretty innovative proposal here:
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> >>> https://senseable.mit.edu/space-bubbles/
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