[Bloat] [Starlink] On fiber as critical infrastructure w/Comcast chat

Robert McMahon rjmcmahon at rjmcmahon.com
Sat Mar 25 20:57:50 EDT 2023

Sure, this isn't about peering. It's about treating last mile infrastructure as critical infrastructure and paying those who work on it, construct it, maintain it, manage it, to meet high standards like we try to do for hospitals and water supplies. 

‚Ā£Peering, ad insertions, etc. are important but not relevant to this analysis unless I'm missing something.


On Mar 25, 2023, 5:28 PM, at 5:28 PM, David Lang <david at lang.hm> wrote:
>No, the primary cost (other than laying the fiber) is in the
>electronics to 
>route the packets around once they leave the optics, and the upstream
>and peering to other ISPs.
>laying the fiber is expensive, optics are trivially cheap in
>comparison, but 
>while the theoretical bandwidth of the fiber is huge, that's only for
>the one 
>hop, once you get past that hop and have to deal with the aggregate
>bandwidth of 
>multiple endpoints, something has to give.
>David Lang
>On Sat, 25 Mar 2023, Robert McMahon wrote:
>> The primary cost is the optics. That's why they're p in sfp and pay
>> Bob
>> On Mar 25, 2023, 4:35 PM, at 4:35 PM, David Lang <david at lang.hm>
>>> On Sat, 25 Mar 2023, Robert McMahon via Bloat wrote:
>>>> The fiber has basically infinite capacity.
>>> in theory, but once you start aggregating it and having to pay for
>>> equipment
>>> that can handle the rates, your 'infinite capaicty' starts to run
>>> really
>>> fast.
>>> David Lang
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